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Post Neon Knight on Fri 14 Jun - 23:13

@OsricPearl wrote:I don't understand. You live in an island. You don't need anymore people. Scratching Don't they care about the environment and all of that?
Strangely, the fact that over-crowding is putting more pressure on the environment is not often mentioned in immigration debates (when we have them), even by the Greens. The argument is mostly about what immigrants are or are not contributing to the economy. Some parts of the economy have become dependent on cheap labour from immigrants which obviously suits some business owners. And the Governmemt would seem to prefer to hire foreign doctors for the National Health Service than train our own people. It's all very short-sighted.

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Post OsricPearl on Mon 17 Jun - 2:53

@Neon Knight wrote:
@OsricPearl wrote:I don't understand. You live in an island. You don't need anymore people. Scratching Don't they care about the environment and all of that?
Strangely, the fact that over-crowding is putting more pressure on the environment is not often mentioned in immigration debates (when we have them), even by the Greens. The argument is mostly about what immigrants are or are not contributing to the economy. Some parts of the economy have become dependent on cheap labour from immigrants which obviously suits some business owners. And the Governmemt would seem to prefer to hire foreign doctors for the National Health Service than train our own people. It's all very short-sighted.

We are having the same problem here in the US with IT and Medicine. The Medical community conspired to bring more foreign doctors to lower wages. This was revealed this year sometime, with an leaked internal memo. Higher wages were a "problem." Suspect
The thing is that medical care is just as expensive now as it would be anyway, so what benefit did it give me? Bad Mood

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Post Neon Knight on Mon 17 Jun - 20:19

The closest to a mainstream anti-mmigration campaign we've got is the organisation Migratoinwatch, headed by Lord Green, a former diplomat. He recently posted this article on a Conservative supporting website:
https://www.conservativehome.com/platform/2019/06/andrew-green-debating-immigration-has-been-marginal-to-this-leadership-election-that-should-change.html

"The situation is certainly serious. Annual net migration into the UK has averaged nearly 300,000 over the past five years – that is roughly the population of Newcastle. Yet, until Labour came to power in 1997, net migration was never more than 50,000 a year and was sometimes negative. Since 2010, nine years of Conservative Government have failed to get a grip on it, as the graph below clearly indicates.

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The implications and consequences for our future are stark. A level of net migration continuing at present levels would take our population from about 66 million today to 100 million by the end of the century. Yet . . . achieving the Conservatives’ promise of reducing net migration to 100,000 a year would restrain the increase in our population to between 70 and 75 million.

As I have already suggested, the character and nature of our society are already being changed without the consent of the majority of our population, three quarters of whom support the reduction of net migration levels to the ‘tens of thousands’."

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