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Post Neon Knight Sat 6 Jun - 2:03

Sary wrote:I like your diagram, it has always been easier for me to understand something by visualization. The idea of shared dreams is a difficult one to grasp.
I think the diagram needs a God at the centre of things to be the creator or producer of the minds/souls and of the 'dream worlds' (universes) that the souls experience as realities:

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Otherwise, we'd have to say that all the different universes appear at random, which seems unlikely since they are part of one system.




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Post Sary Tue 9 Jun - 0:27

I like the diagram with God included, but it does not show a personal connection to God.
Maybe that is the part where religion fits in?
Scientists seem to be getting closer to understanding how quantum mechanics works in relation to time and death.
I guess the bigger question is why.
I have been reading a little bit about the theory of Biocentrism.

https://aeon.co/ideas/there-is-no-death-only-a-series-of-eternal-nows

In short, death does not actually exist. Instead, at death, we reach the imagined border of ourselves, the wooded boundary where, in the old fairy tale, the fox and the hare say goodnight to each other. And if death and time are illusions, so too is the continuity in the connection of nows. Where, then, do we find ourselves? On rungs that can be shuffled and reshuffled anywhere, ‘like those’, as Ralph Waldo Emerson put it in 1842, ‘that Hermes won with dice, of the Moon, that Osiris might be born.’

Einstein knew this. In 1955, when his lifelong friend Michele Besso died, he wrote: ‘Now he has departed from this strange world a little ahead of me. That means nothing. People like us, who believe in physics, know that the distinction between past, present and future is only a stubbornly persistent illusion.’




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Post Neon Knight Mon 22 Jun - 0:42

I could have put connections from each soul to God, but if a person was connected to God all the time wouldn't he or she be constantly having a mystical experience? Maybe religious practices produce some kind of temporary link, but not a full one. Anyway, this shows the basic relationship between the three elements. Like that article says, our lives are really just the experiencing of information (in various forms), so I've used the term 'Information Universe':

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I think the article is saying that life is like a record (the information) that can be played (experienced) in sequence or accessed and played from any point. I agree with the first bit, but as far as we can tell time only goes in one direction in our lives. I've been thinking that time is real but that it is space which is the illusion . . . Close your eyes and imagine you're riding on a train. You look out of the window and see the fields, trees and buildings going past. Then you look at your wristwatch and watch the second hand tick for ten seconds. You look out of the window again and see a lake in the distance . . . In that little exercise the time was real but the space and all the objects were completely imaginary, constructed from information in your memory.

So we could say that God creates a 'story' like a computer adventure game for us to experience and learn from (or maybe just to experience). And when that story finishes we start another one, maybe similar, maybe very different, but meeting some of the same souls we knew before 'playing' different characters.




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Post Sary Wed 1 Jul - 1:10

I kind of understand the theory of relativity . . . the way that humans perceive reality, through space time. Time is one demential because it is always going forward. Space, our environment is three-dementional.
When we are on a train and look away for a moment, we are able to orient ourselves because of spatial and temporal cues.

The feeling that you are moving, when your train is stopped at the station and other trains are passing by is strange.
Or, if your train is traveling at the same speed as the train running parallel it feels as if you are not moving at all!

It is all relative.




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Post Neon Knight Sat 4 Jul - 21:29

It looks like Shakespeare thought along the lines of the 'dream theory' of life:

“To die, to sleep -
To sleep, perchance to dream - ay, there's the rub,
For in this sleep of death what dreams may come...”
― William Shakespeare, Hamlet




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Post Neon Knight Wed 18 Nov - 22:25

I think watching Doctor Who when I was growing up helped make me open minded about reincarnation. When the Doctor regenerates he has a different body and a different personality but it is the same mind.







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Post Sary Sat 28 Nov - 12:24

I am unfamiliar with Dr. Who, we had 3 television channels when I was growing up, and very limited choices. If the series ever did air on T.V, no doubt it would have been very popular with American audiences.

The idea that a soul regenerates into a different body and a different personality but the same mind makes me wonder... what about the fact that there are so many people living in this day and age.
So, there must be many more new inexperienced souls, as opposed to higher more evolved spirits, being reincarnated. Maybe this is part of the problem in the modern world.
An imbalance of  “children” to adults  LOL 1

Anyway, here is a diagram I found based on the ideas and teachings of the Irish poet W.B Yeats, he had a fascination with all things related to the afterlife and wrote extensively on the subject.
The diagram depicts the cycle of life and death, as a never ending circle. His thoughts about what happens after death but before life are easier for me to visualize, then to try and comprehend his writing.

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Post Neon Knight Sun 14 Feb - 0:41

Sary wrote:The idea that a soul regenerates into a different body and a different personality but the same mind makes me wonder... what about the fact that there are so many people living in this day and age.
So, there must be many more new inexperienced souls, as opposed to higher more evolved spirits, being reincarnated. Maybe this is part of the problem in the modern world.
An imbalance of  “children” to adults  LOL 1
Maybe that's the case  Neutral  Remember, Jim Tucker theorised that most souls don't come back to this world but go on to a new 'dream'. I think that if there is reincarnation, we don't live numerous lives to learn things and eventually become super-wise but just to have a variety of experiences and emotional ups and downs for the sake of it - a constant series of adventure playgrounds for the soul.

Some summaries of and comments on Tucker's book Return to Life: https://uvamagazine.org/articles/the_science_of_reincarnation -
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“I understand the leap it takes to conclude there is something beyond what we can see and touch,” says Tucker, who served as medical director of the University’s Child and Family Psychiatry Clinic for nearly a decade. “But there is this evidence here that needs to be accounted for, and when we look at these cases carefully, some sort of carry-over of memories often makes the most sense.” . . .
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While his work might be expected to garner fierce debate within the scientific community, Tucker’s research, based in part on the cases accumulated all over the world by his predecessor, Ian Stevenson, who died in 2007, has caused little stir. Michael Levin, director of the Center for Regenerative and Developmental Biology at Tufts University—who wrote in an academic review of Tucker’s first book that it presented a “first-rate piece of research”—said that’s because current scientific research models have no way to prove or debunk Tucker’s findings. “When you fish with a net with a certain size of holes, you will never catch any fish smaller than those holes,” Levin says. “What you find is limited by how you are searching for it. Our current methods and concepts have no way of dealing with these data.”

Tucker says his hypothesis is based on more than just wishful thinking. “It’s much more than a hope,” he says. “Having direct positive evidence for a theory can have value, even if negative evidence against it is not possible.”




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