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Steam tells the SJW's to Stuff it.

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Post OsricPearl on Sat 16 Jun - 23:38

In their own polite way. Apparently, Kotaku and other gaming sites have been going after Steam because reasons.

Recently there's been a bunch of community discussion around what kind of games we're allowing onto the Steam Store. As is often the case, the discussion caused us to spend some time examining what we're doing, why we're doing it, and how we could be doing it better. Decision making in this space is particularly challenging, and one that we've really struggled with. Contrary to many assumptions, this isn't a space we've automated - humans at Valve are very involved, with groups of people looking at the contents of every controversial title submitted to us. Similarly, people have falsely assumed these decisions are heavily affected by our payment processors, or outside interest groups. Nope, it's just us grappling with a really hard problem....

So we ended up going back to one of the principles in the forefront of our minds when we started Steam, and more recently as we worked on Steam Direct to open up the Store to many more developers: Valve shouldn't be the ones deciding this. If you're a player, we shouldn't be choosing for you what content you can or can't buy. If you're a developer, we shouldn't be choosing what content you're allowed to create. Those choices should be yours to make. Our role should be to provide systems and tools to support your efforts to make these choices for yourself, and to help you do it in a way that makes you feel comfortable...

With that principle in mind, we've decided that the right approach is to allow everything onto the Steam Store, except for things that we decide are illegal, or straight up trolling.

Good! I hope that this marks the beginning of the end of SJW influence. Angry Lady
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Post frankhammer on Sun 17 Jun - 19:16

At E3, video gaming's bigots have lost

https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-44504344

What we can't beat are the journalists who don't game, consider themselves both technology reporters and enforcers of the modern morals/ethics that have taken hold. (Some of which are fair)

So their view, reported in both traditional outlets and even the internet based outlets, hold a lot of power and sway over companies.
The "gamer", millions upon millions of them, have no power. They're addicted and will part with their money no matter what, so there are no financial repercussions to the software houses altering games to suit this SJW mindset.

https://twitter.com/polygon/status/1006350445181390849?lang=en

All this inclusiveness today. I don't remember any game that was even interested in relationships in the past. Today, there must be statements made.

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Post OsricPearl on Sun 17 Jun - 21:51

@frankhammer wrote:At E3, video gaming's bigots have lost

https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-44504344

What we can't beat are the journalists who don't game, consider themselves both technology reporters and enforcers of the modern morals/ethics that have taken hold. (Some of which are fair)

So their view, reported in both traditional outlets and even the internet based outlets, hold a lot of power and sway over companies.
The "gamer", millions upon millions of them, have no power. They're addicted and will part with their money no matter what, so there are no financial repercussions to the software houses altering games to suit this SJW mindset.

https://twitter.com/polygon/status/1006350445181390849?lang=en

All this inclusiveness today. I don't remember any game that was even interested in relationships in the past. Today, there must be statements made.

That is very sad. I keep on waiting for the pushback by players. At some point, players have to say, "no more." I know I've stopped buying as many games and I've started doing other things as a hobby. I still like games, but I refuse to play their SJW dance. The same can be said about movies. I wish that there was a mass movement of people like me. Until it hits their pocketbooks, they aren't going to change much.

At least Star Wars is getting hammered.
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Post Neon Knight on Sun 17 Jun - 22:29

What kinds of things are being stopped or censored in games?

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Post OsricPearl on Mon 18 Jun - 0:10

@Neon Knight wrote:What kinds of things are being stopped or censored in games?

They are trying to make games less sexy. They also complain about diversity, even when there is no context for it (like a medieval game set in Europe) or conversely, they will complain about there being too much diversity. Rolling Eyes

They also complain about toxic masculinity and mean people on the internet. It's all very tiresome.
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Post Aëlwenn on Mon 18 Jun - 19:23

It’s totally my own business. Very interesting post and subject, I will contribute this week end. Thank’s for posting it.
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Post frankhammer on Tue 19 Jun - 16:41

I was a member of another forum (gaming related) from 2001. A year or so ago, when PewDiePie uttered the word nigger, however inappropriately if may have been, I mention in passing that with the immigration issues in some parts of Europe, you can understand the response or reaction. (something along those lines). I was banned with the message "racist".

How is this relevant? The forum has an associated website had been sold a couple of years back to "gaming journalists" who were very serious SJW types. Up to then, I had noticed the difference but as I never read gaming articles, I hadn't realised how serious these people were. They had banned long time members for other discrepancies too. The ones who are left had conformed to the new values. The new way.

At this stage, I had given up gaming for a fairly long while but popped in for a chat and to see if there was ever going to be a BF 2142 sequel... No great loss.

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