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Post Neon Knight on Tue 20 Nov - 19:40

https://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/poll-60-of-scots-would-back-remain-in-new-scottish-independence-vote-1-4832164?f=

Scots would vote against independence by a wide margin if they were asked whether to leave or remain in the United Kingdom, a landmark poll has found. The poll’s release comes as Nicola Sturgeon and Theresa May are set for showdown talks, with the UK speeding towards an uncertain Brexit conclusion.

. . . The Survation poll, commissioned by a pro-Union group, found that if a referendum were held now, 60% of Scottish voters aged 16 and over would choose to stay in the UK and just 40% would choose to leave, once the don’t knows are removed. Among voters aged 18 and over the margin is even wider, with 67% voting to remain in the UK and just 33 per cent choosing to leave, again once don’t knows are removed.

The findings represent one of the highest levels of support for staying in the UK of any poll conducted since the 2014 referendum. However, polls suggest Brexit could boost support for independence, particularly if there is a chaotic exit from the EU. The margin in favour of staying in the UK narrows to 57-43 if the UK leaves the EU with a deal and is just 52-48 if the country leaves without a deal. A total of 31% of respondents said UK membership of the EU was more important than Scotland remaining part of the UK, compared to 22% who put the UK first and 36 per cent who said the two Unions were equally important.

Pamela Nash, chief executive of Scotland in Union, the campaign group that commissioned the poll, said: "This bombshell poll shows that a huge majority of Scots want to remain in the UK and are turned off by Nicola Sturgeon’s desperate attempts to use Brexit to break up Britain. Voters know that we are better off as part of the UK and it makes sense to remain with our oldest friends, neighbours and allies rather than divide us in the name of nationalism."




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Post Neon Knight on Sat 27 Jul - 16:27

The latest polling shows just 51% wanting to stay with England. The Scottish National Party want another referendum next year in 2020 (the first was in 2014) but I don't think they'll get it.

I think a referendum on the same major constitutional matter should not be repeated in less than 12 years, otherwise the significance of the referendum itself is weakened. Also, a change should only happen if there are at least 55% to 60% in favour to ensure that the decision is a fairly stable one.




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Post OsricPearl on Sat 27 Jul - 20:12

Given the seriousness of the referendum, and its wide-reaching implications, this is one of those cases where I don't believe a simple majority vote will work. It should be a 2/3 or 3/4 majority vote for yes.




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Post Neon Knight on Sun 28 Jul - 23:57

@OsricPearl wrote:Given the seriousness of the referendum, and its wide-reaching implications, this is one of those cases where I don't believe a simple majority vote will work. It should be a 2/3 or 3/4 majority vote for yes.
Unbelievably, in 2014, the then Prime Minister, David Cameron, allowed 16 & 17 year olds to vote in the independence referendum, so that precedent will probably persist, meaning that one of the greatest nations in history could be broken up on the say of a few thousand teenagers if the simple majority vote is used again. Many an organisation requires a 2/3 majority of voting members to make changes to its constitution - even if it's just a sports club or something.




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Post Neon Knight on Sun 15 Sep - 18:24

But the age breakdown of the Scottish independence vote in 2014 contains a surprise - a majority of the two youngest age groups voted "No" to independence:

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Also, Protestants/Anglicans firmly against independence:

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Born in Scotland: 49.8% No, 50.2% Yes
Born elsewhere in UK: 70.2% No, 29.8% Yes




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