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President Nixon considered nuking Vietnam in 1972

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Post Neon Knight on Tue 2 Jan - 21:12

Daily Mail 9th Nov 2017

Did the U.S. consider dropping a nuclear bomb during the Vietnam War?

Tape recordings of conversations between Richard Nixon, the 37th U.S. president, and some of his top advisers during the first six months of 1972, found him musing openly about dropping a nuclear bomb on North Vietnam.

‘We’re going to do it,’ he said. ‘I’m going to destroy the goddamn country, believe me, I mean destroy it if necessary. and let me say, even the nuclear weapons if necessary. It isn’t necessary. But, you know, what I mean is, what shows you the extent to which I’m willing to go. By a nuclear weapon, I mean that we will bomb the living bejeezus out of North Vietnam and then if anybody interferes we will threaten the nuclear weapons.’

In 2002, about 500 hours of Nixon’s discussions were released by the U.S. National archives and, in his talks with secretary of state Henry Kissinger, he showed this was not a one-off remark.

Nixon: ‘I’d rather use the nuclear bomb. Have you got that ready?’

Kissinger: ‘That, I think, would just be too much.’

Nixon: ‘ a nuclear bomb, does that bother you? I just want you to think big, Henry, for Christ’s sake! The only place where you and I disagree is with regard to the bombing. You’re so goddamned concerned about civilians, and I don’t give a damn. I don’t care.’

Kissinger: ‘ I’m concerned about the civilians because I don’t want the world to be mobilised against you as a butcher.’


As the Vietnam War escalated in 1966, a pentagon official to president Lyndon B. Johnson was heard by mathematician Freeman Dyson to say: ‘It might be a good idea to toss in a nuke from time to time, just to keep the other side guessing.’ Dyson assembled a team to perform a so- called JASON study, where an independent group advised the U.S. government on tactical nuclear weapons use in South-east asia. The project was led by Dyson, chemist Robert Gomer, quantum physicist Steven Weinberg and particle physicist Courtenay Wright.

Seymour Deitchman, of the Institute for Defence analysis, confirmed: ‘There had been not infrequent talk among military people that “a few nukes” dropped on strategic locations, such as the Mu Gia pass through the mountainous barrier along the North Vietnamese-Laotian border, would close that pass (and others) for good.’

The 55-page study analysed the effects of using tactical nuclear weapons against a variety of targets, as well as the likely political effects of a nuclear campaign. It concluded that a nuclear attack on Vietnamese insurgents would ‘offer the U.S. no decisive military advantage’. Rather, the political effects ‘would be uniformly bad and could be catastrophic’.


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War was unnecessary and disgusting; using American soldiers as pawns for some selfish elites that cost alot of American lives unnecessarily. The war definitely got a lot of backlash from the American public. Wars prior to American globalism had more justifications and meaning; now, wars have lost their meaning entirely. Trying to brainwash the public with such filth that wasted so much tax dollars for special toys to only benefit the elites and devastate the American economy via tremendous debt and job outsourcing only benefiting other countries; not American citizens themselves. Definitely traitors to the country; selling out and treating the country as a expendable asset in their own game. Disgrace to the Founding Fathers and definitely an enemy to the American public/ the country itself. Sad Violet

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@de Burgh wrote:War was unnecessary and disgusting; using American soldiers as pawns for some selfish elites that cost alot of American lives unnecessarily. The war definitely got a lot of backlash from the American public. Wars prior to American globalism had more justifications and meaning; now, wars have lost their meaning entirely. Trying to brainwash the public with such filth that wasted so much tax dollars for special toys to only benefit the elites and devastate the American economy via tremendous debt and job outsourcing only benefiting other countries; not American citizens themselves. Definitely traitors to the country; selling out and treating the country as a expendable asset in their own game. Disgrace to the Founding Fathers and definitely an enemy to the American public/ the country itself. Sad Violet
Do you think either of the Gulf wars or the missions in Afghanistan and the Balkans and were justified?

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Post de Burgh on Tue 9 Jan - 18:53

@Neon Knight wrote:
@de Burgh wrote:War was unnecessary and disgusting; using American soldiers as pawns for some selfish elites that cost alot of American lives unnecessarily. The war definitely got a lot of backlash from the American public. Wars prior to American globalism had more justifications and meaning; now, wars have lost their meaning entirely. Trying to brainwash the public with such filth that wasted so much tax dollars for special toys to only benefit the elites and devastate the American economy via tremendous debt and job outsourcing only benefiting other countries; not American citizens themselves. Definitely traitors to the country; selling out and treating the country as a expendable asset in their own game. Disgrace to the Founding Fathers and definitely an enemy to the American public/ the country itself. Sad Violet
Do you think either of the Gulf wars or the missions in Afghanistan and the Balkans and were justified?

Overall, no; because its carefully orchestrated to further American Imperialism/hegemony. The U.S. purposely destabilizes and intentionally creates enemy in order to set up puppet states via pre-selected "leaders." Using citizens' lives as disposable pawns in their sick game that only benefits elites and their co-conspirators. Half of these wars (that aren't justified at the start) the U.S. dragged the Western World into that didn't concern us is one of the many reasons why we have unregulated, immigration crises, terrible economies for the common man, inflation, political correctness excessively and other negative variables that are destroying these societies from the inside out. If America stayed true to its former Isolationist policies; I would say the world would be a better place without American Imperialism causing more harm than good.

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