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Post Neon Knight on Thu 23 Nov - 23:39

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5099577/Huntswoman-repeatedly-whips-saboteur-riding-crop.html

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Background: Fox hunting in England was banned in 2005 . . .

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/earth/countryside/11418998/Ten-years-on-from-the-hunting-ban-has-anything-really-changed.html

What is certain is that, far from dying out, the process of hunting has prospered, with some 45,000 people regularly taking part and 250,000 turning out across the country for the most recent Boxing Day meets. Officially these are “drag hunts”, where hounds follow a chemical trail laid across the countryside, or “trail hunts”, where the hunt’s path loops and overlaps to simulate unpredictable vulpine meanderings. Yet it would be wrong to say that hunting is now a bloodless sport, because – whisper it – some foxes are still pursued to their deaths.

There’s no way to know for certain how often this happens. If you ask Lee Moon, the answer is “all the time”. Moon is the spokesman for the Hunt Saboteurs’ Association (HSA), an umbrella body for 40 or 50 local groups who spend their winters chasing, tracking and disrupting hunts. Saboteurs, or “sabs”, spray oils on the ground to mislead the dogs, crack whips to deter them, and blow hunting horns to confuse them.

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Post Magyar Lány on Thu 23 Nov - 23:53

@Neon Knight wrote:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5099577/Huntswoman-repeatedly-whips-saboteur-riding-crop.html

Scroll down and click on "Watch the full video"


Background: Fox hunting in England was banned in 2005 . . .

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/earth/countryside/11418998/Ten-years-on-from-the-hunting-ban-has-anything-really-changed.html

What is certain is that, far from dying out, the process of hunting has prospered, with some 45,000 people regularly taking part and 250,000 turning out across the country for the most recent Boxing Day meets. Officially these are “drag hunts”, where hounds follow a chemical trail laid across the countryside, or “trail hunts”, where the hunt’s path loops and overlaps to simulate unpredictable vulpine meanderings. Yet it would be wrong to say that hunting is now a bloodless sport, because – whisper it – some foxes are still pursued to their deaths.

There’s no way to know for certain how often this happens. If you ask Lee Moon, the answer is “all the time”. Moon is the spokesman for the Hunt Saboteurs’ Association (HSA), an umbrella body for 40 or 50 local groups who spend their winters chasing, tracking and disrupting hunts. Saboteurs, or “sabs”, spray oils on the ground to mislead the dogs, crack whips to deter them, and blow hunting horns to confuse them.

What a horrible hobby! (Sorry) Why are they hunt these poor animals? I'm with the foxes. I didn't know this is so popular in Britain. Most of the Hungarian articles are about whale hunting in Japan.

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Post Neon Knight on Fri 24 Nov - 0:24

It's a countryside tradition going back hundreds of years. I support the ban and so do a large majority of the people here.

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Post Magyar Lány on Fri 24 Nov - 0:39

@Neon Knight wrote:It's a countryside tradition going back hundreds of years. I support the ban and so do a large majority of the people here.

When nobles lived in Hungary, hunting was a popular sport. There wasn't baron, count etc. who didn't go to hunt. If I remember well maybe some communist leaders liked it. I didn't want to write any inappropriate or offending, but I don't know Britain very well. Sad Violet

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Post Neon Knight on Fri 24 Nov - 0:54

Magyar Lány wrote:
@Neon Knight wrote:It's a countryside tradition going back hundreds of years. I support the ban and so do a large majority of the people here.

When nobles lived in Hungary, hunting was a popular sport. There wasn't baron, count etc. who didn't go to hunt. If I remember well maybe some communist leaders liked it. I didn't want to write any inappropriate or offending, but I don't know Britain very well. Sad Violet

We regard ourselves as a nation of animal lovers. Stories of animals being hurt always outrages most people.

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Post Sary on Fri 24 Nov - 10:31

Are all types of hunting banned in England or is it just fox....are they endangered an endangered species?

There is a lot of wildlife in the area where I live. Although I do not really care for the sport,I see how some people enjoy hunting and fishing.  Many hunters are conservationists and nature lovers.

That man should not have been pulling on the woman's horse,he was asking for it!
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Post Neon Knight on Fri 24 Nov - 21:59

@Sary wrote:Are all types of hunting banned in England or is it just fox....are they endangered an endangered species?

There is a lot of wildlife in the area where I live. Although I do not really care for the sport,I see how some people enjoy hunting and fishing.  Many hunters are conservationists and nature lovers.

There are lots of foxes and they've moved into some urban areas.

Some animals and birds at certain times can be shot. Official info. on hunting - it's very detailed: https://www.gov.uk/hunting

3. Mammals - There are different rules for foxes, deer and other mammals.
Foxes - It’s illegal to hunt foxes with a pack of dogs. You can use dogs to simulate hunting, for example ‘drag’ or ‘trail’ hunting. You can use up to 2 dogs to chase (‘flush’ or ‘stalk’) foxes out of hiding if the fox is causing damage to your property or the environment. Your dogs can’t go underground to find the foxes unless they’re threatening wild or game birds kept for shooting - only one dog can go underground at any time.

You must: *shoot the fox quickly after it’s been found  *carry proof you own the land you’re shooting on or written permission from the landowner

You can be fined, and your dogs or hunting equipment taken away, if you break the law. There are other ways you can control foxes if they’re causing damage to your property or the environment.

You must follow the restrictions on when you can shoot deer and what type of firearms and ammunition you can use. You need a licence to shoot deer: *in the closed season  *at night (at any time of the year). You can’t use a vehicle to chase deer.

You can hunt or shoot some other mammals. There are rules on when you can hunt or shoot and what equipment you can use.

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Post Neon Knight on Fri 24 Nov - 22:14

This goes like Monty Python at the end:



A woman with a pet fox she reared from a cub:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5107143/Mother-keeps-fox-pet-lets-play-children.html

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Post Magyar Lány on Fri 24 Nov - 22:40

@Neon Knight wrote:This goes like Monty Python at the end:



A woman with a pet fox she reared from a cub:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5107143/Mother-keeps-fox-pet-lets-play-children.html

This is so sweet.

I was in a „animal home” (every kind of animal lives there) some years ago.  It was a fox in a cage. A „guest” woman was in this cage one time. The fox grabbed her bag, and played with the bag, it was so playful like a dog. The woman said she has find it somewhere, and she has to keep there, until she get documents, then she will go home with her pet fox. It was unbelievable.

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Post Sary on Sat 25 Nov - 11:17

@Neon Knight wrote:This goes like Monty Python at the end:



A woman with a pet fox she reared from a cub:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5107143/Mother-keeps-fox-pet-lets-play-children.html

That is a very cute video but surely Mr. fox would rip those domesticated cats to shreds ,if he had the chance. It is his nature to be sly. I cannt imagine having a fox as a pet,I hear that they are very stinky.....and those teeth!

Here is a link to a horrific animal on human attack that happened in a town not too far from where I live.  The woman that owned Travis the chimp treated him like he was human...like her boyfriend. A bizarre and sad story. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/27/magazine/27travis-t.html

It’s nothing but a tragedy,” declared the chief detective, shaking his head and rocking back in his chair. “A Roman tragedy.” In 30 years he had seen a lot of cases but never one like this: the media, the public interest, the horror, the nuttiness. He clicked the mouse on his computer and played the 911 call, his eyebrows rising and falling to the terrible notes. On that cold, clear February day, in those eerie moments after the shooting, the detective and his team tracked the perpetrator, following the trail of blood to where his body finally lay, his face in a rictus like “The Death of Marat.” The detective still remembered the next morning, opening his eyes in bed, muttering to himself, “That had to be a dream, right?”
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Post Neon Knight on Thu 17 May - 18:38

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/04/05/falconer-cleared-hunting-charge-uses-golden-eagle-hunt-foxes/
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A falconer has been cleared of breaching strict hunting laws because he hunts foxes using a golden eagle.



John Mease, 45, was found not guilty after a court heard he used the bird of prey to catch animals as opposed to a pack of dogs. He was further cleared of causing unnecessary cruelty to an animal despite "dispatching" a fox by driving a knife through its eye after it was caught by his raptor in 2013. George Adams, 66, a co-accused Fitzwilliam huntsman, was convicted of using hounds to kill a fox on January 1 2016.

Peterborough Magistrates Court was filled with supporters of the hunt and hunt saboteurs during the two-day trial. Magistrates heard that the hunt's hounds were used to flush the fox out into the open before the eagle was meant to be released to catch the fleeing mammal.

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Post OsricPearl on Tue 22 May - 14:49

I don't have a problem with hunters as long as they don't hunt animals to extinction. We are hunters by nature. If we didn't hunt, our ancestors wouldn't have survived. This is something ingrained in us. We are no more cruel than lions and wolves. As for "fun," anyone who has seen an animal hunt knows they have a lot of fun doing it.
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