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The Six European Microstates

Post Neon Knight on Sun 4 Feb - 0:13

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_microstates

The European microstates or ministates are a set of very small sovereign states in Europe. Andorra, Liechtenstein, Malta, Monaco, San Marino, and the Vatican City are usually included, and are the six smallest states in Europe by area. Four of these states are monarchies (three principalities—Andorra, Liechtenstein, and Monaco—and one papacy, the Vatican City), with all these states tracing their status back to the first millennium or the early second millennium, except for Liechtenstein, created in the 17th century.



Microstates are small independent states recognized by larger states, unlike micronations, which are only self-declared and not recognized . . . Some scholars dispute the status of Vatican City as a state, arguing that it does not meet the "traditional criteria of statehood" and that the "special status of the Vatican City is probably best regarded as a means of ensuring that the Pope can freely exercise his spiritual functions, and in this respect is loosely analogous to that of the headquarters of international organisations."

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Post Neon Knight on Sun 4 Feb - 9:28

Since it has a sizable population, I've granted Malta its own sub-forum Smile 1

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Post Jehan I on Sun 4 Feb - 11:05

It might be strange but I have this fantaisy of living in a small country like it.
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Post Sary on Sun 4 Feb - 23:35

Here is a little background on the papal flag. http://www.traditioninaction.org/religious/f017rpPapalFlag.htm
I can not imagine modern day Catholics defending anything,much less the pope leading the troops into battle. How times have changed,we are in a very different world.

I would like to visit the Vatican some day.
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Post OsricPearl on Tue 6 Feb - 3:29

I've always been curious about them, particularly Malta. I would love to visit one day.
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Post Neon Knight on Wed 7 Feb - 9:48

Some are predicting that nations will be replaced by city-states:

https://aeon.co/essays/the-end-of-a-world-of-nation-states-may-be-upon-us

"On 17 September 2016, the then presidential candidate Donald Trump tweeted: ‘A nation without borders is not a nation at all. We WILL Make America Safe Again!’ The outcry obscured the fact that Trump was right (in the first half, anyway). Borders determine who’s in and who’s out, who’s a citizen and who’s not, who puts in and who takes from the common pot. If a nation cannot defend its border, it ceases to exist in any meaningful way, both as a going concern and as the agreed-upon myth that it is . . .

This is the crux of the problem: nation-states rely on control. If they can’t control information, crime, businesses, borders or the money supply, then they will cease to deliver what citizens demand of them. In the end, nation-states are nothing but agreed-upon myths: we give up certain freedoms in order to secure others. But if that transaction no longer works, and we stop agreeing on the myth, it ceases to have power over us.

So what might replace it?

The city-state increasingly looks like the best contender. These are cities with the same independent sovereign authority as nations, places such as Monaco or Singapore. The city-state has recently been feted by Forbes magazine (‘A New Era For The City-State?’ 2010), Quartz (‘Nations Are No Longer Driving Globalisation – Cities Are’, 2013), The Boston Globe (‘The City-State Returns’, 2015) and the Gates Foundation-funded How We Get to Next (‘The Rebirth of the City-State’, 2016).

The trends that are pinching the nation-state are helping the city-state. In a highly connected, quasi-borderless world, cities are centres of commerce, growth, innovation, technology and finance. According to Bruce Katz, Centennial Scholar at the Brookings Institution in Washington, DC, and co-author (with Jeremy Nowak) of the forthcoming book The New Localism: How Cities Can Thrive in the Age of Populism, the hub-like quality of large cities is especially valuable in the modern economy: ‘Innovation happens because of collaboration, and that needs proximity. You need a dense eco-system, and so hyper-connectivity is reinforcing concentration.’ Cities also have demographic weight on their side: for the first time in history, in 2014 the majority of humans live in cities . . .

Clearly, nation-states won’t go down tamely. Carving out a new form of sovereign authority from an existing one is extremely difficult, and is generally frowned upon by the UN. There’s a more prosaic reason too. In 2015, 2.1 million residents of Venice in Italy (89 per cent of those who voted) voted for independence in a non-binding referendum. Residents were annoyed that the city pays $20 billion more in tax than it gets back. But Italy will certainly not let Venice and its $20 billion tax go easily."


That's from a website which promotes cosmopolitanism, but I should think the borders of a city-state would be far easier to control than the borders of a large nation.

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Post OsricPearl on Wed 7 Feb - 18:54

I think that the city states would be too small to defend against larger, more ambitious countries.
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Post Neon Knight on Wed 7 Feb - 19:13

@OsricPearl wrote:I think that the city states would be too small to defend against larger, more ambitious countries.

Yeah. When people say they want see various nations break apart I think they forget what made them in the first place - uniting for security.

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